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What happened to Fascism? by RedAmerican1945 What happened to Fascism? by RedAmerican1945
I've been wanting to make this for a while now. 
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:iconlordgojira:
LordGojira Featured By Owner Feb 12, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
"Looks at comment section"

People are still confusing 'Islam' with 'Muslim'. You guys fucking kidding me? Facepalm1
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ghostraptor1917 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
SJWS have low IQs
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LordGojira Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
No kidding, I guess that explains the low I.Q.'s here.
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ghostraptor1917 Featured By Owner Feb 25, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Indeed
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Oct 27, 2016
Whats up.
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Jewel-M Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2016
The similarities are shocking...
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MissComrade Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
DEATH TO NEW NAZIS
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:iconredamerican1945:
RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2016
Good to see another leftist who dislikes Islam, I'm getting pretty tired of liberals and "Anarchists" calling me a racist for saying shit about the religion.
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MissComrade Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yes! I'm absolutely right with you!
I hate muslims, because they're kill white race and another people just because they're not muslims.
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2016
Well I don't hate all muslims (I actually have a few muslims friends) I simply don't like the religion. Also statistically they kill more non whites, considering most jihadist's attacks are done in the middle east. 
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MissComrade Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Have your hear about Moscow incident with muslim nanny?
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:iconredamerican1945:
RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2016
I heard about it a little back and I just checked it up to refresh myself. It's horrible, not much more to say.
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:iconmisscomrade:
MissComrade Featured By Owner Aug 25, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
heard*
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:iconmisscomrade:
MissComrade Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
DEATH TO ISLAM
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kumdang-2 Featured By Owner Aug 5, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
An evil like this has no place in the 21st century
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Shernod9704 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2016
So all palies, Arabs and Muslims fascist Nazis?
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:iconredamerican1945:
RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2016
What?
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Shernod9704 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2016
I'm just saying, are all Muslims fascists or Nazis?
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:iconredamerican1945:
RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2016
Not all. I'm simply showing similarities. I'm making a jab at the religion, the people (muslims) are different in their own ways. 
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Shernod9704 Featured By Owner Jul 25, 2016
OH, good
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valentinfrench Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
 there are a lot muslims to protect jews in France but in Africa there are muslims resistants against the nazis, same if there are extremists minority who support hitler like the bosnia SS or anything like he said this idiot RochambeauFR. Oman is a musim country and their people are more nice. 


same if i'm not muslim, I've muslim  I have some cousins. 

and ignore this RochambeauFR he want just a holocaust anti-muslim it's a terrorist repressed.

Anders Breivik is too a terrorist in more it was a extremist christian. 
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2016
The point of the piece was to compare the crimes of nazi ideology and islamic ideology. Muslims themselves are different in their own away but my problem is the base ideology itself, it at it's core is incompatible with western ideas. It hinders free speech, women's rights, gay rights etc. 
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mxm777 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Nazis persecuted the jews

Isis persecutes christians
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ShadowofWOPR Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2016
I-  But-  What if-

Screw it, I've got nothing.
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:iconredamerican1945:
RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2016
What?
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ShadowofWOPR Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2016
I find the nazi's a preferable alternative to islamic state.
But the comparison is pretty accurate and I had no real rebuttal.

I guess the only thing I could come up with is "at least the fascists were good for themselves"?
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 19, 2016
The Islamic state at least hasn't been able to kill as much as say the nazis yet so right now Nazis in terms of horribleness are still in front. 
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ShadowofWOPR Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2016
Yeah, but Islamic State didn't help get humanity to the moon...  or take home a significant number of gold medals...  or preform any feats of medical research...  or start any positive cultural revolutions like "the anti-smoking campaign" or "wildlife conservation corps"...

(personally I think Mao Zedong [who killed five times as many people as Hitler btw] is the worst person to have ever existed...  Killing any and all of your own people, simply for being educated, in fear that the educated would rise against you?  Inexcusable.  Hitler may have been a complete dick, but at least he let he encouraged a pursuit of superiority, instead of a pursuit of "knowledge of any sort is evil, the less you know, the better")
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 20, 2016
This is apart of a larger history, were there some instances of the nazis doing something weirdly good? Yes, but I think it's very ignorant of us to praise them, especially harder considering what they had planned and had been able to carry of doing. It is accepted that if the nazis were to win and push into russia and gain it, the slavic people would be wiped out in that region, as they were part of the Untermensch and were to be killed along with the poles. We would have seen a genocide 10X worse then the holocaust. 

I would mostly agree on the point of Mao, in china rather it's a more tedious debate. His cult is somewhat weakening and now people are questioning wether or not to keep his portrait up. Although it would be contested that without him, China wouldn't be where it is today. Also his numbers are very debatable as we have less knowledge on them then say the holocaust.
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Der-Himmelstern Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2016
Excepts the fact that you could fit anything in the
above field. American, French, British, Chinese, etc.
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:iconredamerican1945:
RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2016
Thats not the point of the piece. 
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Der-Himmelstern Featured By Owner Jul 18, 2016
I guess so.
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RochambeauFR Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016  Student Artist
"The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France." 
- Adolf Hitler 
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
Hitler on Islam. Beat you to that. 

While hitler didn't really like arabs he admired Islam much like how he admired the Japanese, he saw them as fearless warriors he could use. One of the reasons he made the Bosnian Muslim devision Handschar. 
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RochambeauFR Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016  Student Artist
My point is that Hitler felt closer to Muslims than he did to our people ; in his own words.
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Alchetbeachfan Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
you say that but he was planing to wipe them out too. and catholosisum
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RochambeauFR Featured By Owner Edited Jul 17, 2016  Student Artist
The NSDAP intended to replace Christianity with a bastardized version of it; many of the top leaders in the party were neo-pagan. 

They never once made plans to "wipe out" Muslims. There were Muslims serving in Hitler's military, an entire regiment of them. 
Bundesarchiv Bild 146-1980-036-05, Amin al Hussein by RochambeauFR  6658c510eb4120dd75221b0d1ef3dcc5 by RochambeauFR  

Stop defending Islam. 
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The debate of weather the nazis were christian or not is tedious to say the least. It differs from member to member, but it's quite wrong to say christianity had nothing to do in nazi ideology (I know you didnt say that) Like here en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive…  ct.perceptionvsfact.com/ol/pf/… Even if after all this hitler and the nazi high ups weren't Christian they sure did use Christianity to sway the german people and rally them. I wont even mention the numerous other fascist movements of Europe at the time that were Clerical Fascists. The Rexists, Spanish Falange, Slovak People party (Lead by a priest), Romanian Iron Gaurd, Hungarian Arrow Cross etc...

Well that is untrue. Arabs (Of which most muslims are of) were apart of the Ubermensch or at least planed for it as they were Semitic, and Hitler mostly had the Bosnian division to have a sizable force in the balkans to combat Tito's Partisans. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relation…

Most likely if he had won the Independent state of Croatia would be left to do with the bosnians what they want but if hitler were to stretch into say the middle east, it be game over for most muslims. 
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RochambeauFR Featured By Owner Edited Jul 17, 2016  Student Artist
When I said that the Nazis intended to replace Christianity with a "bastardized version" of it, I was referring to the "positive Christianity". Hitler and the NSDAP were not motivated by Christianity. 

No, it isn't. There is not a single shred of proof that the NSDAP had plans to "wipe out" Arabs; many served in the military of Nazi Germany. Your argument is based upon nothing. 

Have you not heard of the "Free Arabian Legion" ? 
Arab-nazis by RochambeauFR  Arab-soldier-greece by RochambeauFR  
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
Have you ever heard of what a pawn is? It's using a person to you're advantage. SS divisions like Handscar and the Free Arabian Legion were used because Hitler was fighting a war on a large scale. In that, he needed multiple groups to fight on his multiple fronts, like how he formed SS divisions in most European nations, he needed regional troops such as the Arab free legion and the Bosnian division. 60% of the SS was non german. 

Arabs are semites, and in the grand sceme of things if the nazis were to fully go through with their plans semites were to be wiped out, along with slavs as the plan was to move germans into those areas.
The nazis scale of racial superiority went like this. Aryan, Western Europeans (Chinese and Japanese), Mediteranian, (Three more levels), and lastly the Untermensch (Slavs, semites, Roma, Homosexuals, communists etc) Basically who they believed to be completely inferior. 

The kingdom of Iraq sided with the Axis as it had gone against british rule, same with the Muffti, he hope that by allying with Hitler Palestine be given independence from Britain, hitler wanting to hurt the  brits used him well and accordingly. Making him gather a force in bosnia. 
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TheKoalaMan Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
Not all Muslims are fascists. Please stop posting stuff like this, you're getting just as bad as the actual right-wing nut-jobs on Deviantart. 
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
Never once did I say all muslims are fascist, in fact they for the most part suffer the worst of it. I state the ideology of fascism and the religion of islam are similar, I would consider it closes to Clerical Fascism where it is centered around religion.
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theagentofvenom Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016  Student Writer
Extreme nationalism was only helpful in the Balkans and in Europe during Napoleon's reign. America doesn't need nationalism to improve themselves.
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
I would agree, nationalism in the US dosent really work considering how different we are. 
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theagentofvenom Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016  Student Writer
Considering the American Revolution, it might have worked.
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
We were much different then we are now. 
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matritum Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Yes, Hitler was Catholic but liked Muslims. Charles Maurras, far-rightist French politician said: "Nazism is the Islam of the north".
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
He admired them because they were disciplined warriors, something he wanted. 
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RochambeauFR Featured By Owner Edited Jul 17, 2016  Student Artist
"The peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France." 
- Adolf Hitler 
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