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Israeli-Palestinian Peace Poster. by RedAmerican1945 Israeli-Palestinian Peace Poster. by RedAmerican1945
I'm really getting tire of people who consider Israel completely evil and Palestine completely just in it's cause. Lets make this clear I don't hate Palestine or Palestinians, I hate their government and political authorities. I also think that the Israelis have gone a bit to far in their taking of Palestinian Land. 

What Palestine needs to do is to get rid of these horrible groups that controls it. 2 of the flags on the bottom are the main groups that control Palestine, to the Far right the Terrorist group Hamas which advocates jihad, child marriage, and seems to value their weapons over citizens. And in the middle is Fatah and while not as horrible as Hamas in terms of terrorism, it's corruption and clear lack of care for it's people makes it a clear threat to Palestine. 

The Flag on the left is of an extremist far right Jewish group "The Jewish Defense League," also known as the political party Kach and Kahane Chai. It's been labeled as a Terrorist group by Israel, canada, The EU and USA. It's main Political views are described as Far-Right, Neo-Zionism, Jewish Extremism, Anti-Arabism, Jewish Religious Terrorism, and Racism. 

The text on the top is the word "Peace" in both Arabic and Hebrew.

Hopefully with the coming generations in Palestine they will finally stand up to these groups that have made it so Palestine won't become a nation. It's time for the Palestinians to represent themselves, not Hamas or Fatah. And to make peace not war. And may they find peace soon. 
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LizzyChrome Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
Someday, God willing.

I have faith in individual people, but I am VERY cynical about the governments. In all honesty, I think that if peace happens, it will only be after some catastrophe or conflict completely wipes out both of the current governments, and millions if not billions of innocents along with it. I hope that is not the case and that a two-state solution or neutral-state solution is found without violence, but realistically.... :( The other possibility is that if more countries in the Middle East manage to modernize, or if more new countries that are not ruled by Sharia Law crop up (like the possible Kurdistan people are talking about now) that could gradually change the whole climate of the Middle East. Basically, one way or another, that whole part of the world needs to change before Israel, Palestine, and ANY of those countries can have peace with each other. 

I'm Jewish, and I'm really sick of hearing other Jews talk like the Israeli government can never be held accountable for its actions, and I'm sick of people on the other side trying to act like Hamas and other terrorist groups aren't taking advantage of the Palestinians. Actually, I almost have to wonder if Hamas and the radical-Zionists aren't secretly dating, since it's a win-win for both of them; as long as the violence continues, radical Islam has a delicious source of new recruits and things to blame on the West, and the radical Zionists have more excuse to mistreat Palestinians and be trigger-crazy. 
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AlkaliAether Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Very beautiful
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2017
Thank you.
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AlkaliAether Featured By Owner Jan 21, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
Of course! 
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xXPaintedLady Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
We're all children under God or Allah or whatever people believe. Can't we please stop this.
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ahmez77890 Featured By Owner Sep 13, 2016
beautiful, but, that won't happen...
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Americarules1776 Featured By Owner Aug 24, 2016  Student General Artist
Ah a united semite people would be beautiful.
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5thdimensionalguy Featured By Owner Aug 22, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
I feel sorry about them.
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MarioStrikerMurphy Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I hope see the Peace, reconcilliation, and reunification of both people...

Nice work...
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2016
Thank you. 
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RoboticAnarchist Featured By Owner Aug 13, 2016  Student General Artist
Beautiful man!
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SouriFa5oor Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
No, both of them will get out from our land.
It is not Palestine or Israel, It is Syria.
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
A pan Syrians I see. Well I hardly think the syrians at the time have the capability to take it :P 
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LizzyChrome Featured By Owner 3 days ago  Hobbyist General Artist
You have to admit though, there would be same poetic justice in that happening. And over the course of decades or centuries, such a thing could lead indirectly to peace between Israelis and Palestinians, if they become united against a common enemy, retook the place, and set up a new government that didn't pander to any one religion. Holy crap, I feel like a sociopath, that might actually work... 

I need to go to bed. 
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SouriFa5oor Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
At the moment we are busy fighting terrorists, like the FSA, ISIS, and YPG.
But when we are done, we will take back our land together.

Read about Antun Saadeh, this guy is a very good person. 
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
The Assad regime isn't stupid, Israel (While I don't like it to much) wont just sit down, nor will the US, you give us a chance to bomb and we'll take it. Were quite fond of bombing nations sadly. 

Also good luck against the YPG, you'd just be getting rid of a effective force against ISIS. The Turk Coup could be the first crack in Turkeys regional power, and could finally be the point for Kurds to break free. 
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SouriFa5oor Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
As you can see, Erdogan won the coup.
I don't support him, neither the Coup.
Supporting the coup means supporting chaos.
I think that it is not the US problem to interfere in the Middle east. I think it makes things go worse.
YPG is not effective at all. ISIS is being crushed by Shia armies like the Iraqi army and the Shiite militias and Russia.
Even the US "the world strongest army" is doing no any effects.
The Kurds are suffering from ISIS. They are the second least strongest army after the FSA.

You are basically supporting chaos and war, even though you claim you support peace. Historically, this land is Syrian. You can't deny it. The Assyrians, Babylonians, Palmyrians, Akkadians etc are our ancestors. They fought for this land. We won't just give it away like this. I don't think you have any rights to speak about the Middle East and how it should look like. It is not your land or country. Same goes for me. It is not my right to speak whether the Blacks should get an independent country in North America, and the Mexicans should gain back California and New Mexico and Texas, or the Natives should kick the white people out and retake what is their own.

I think your country is suffering more discrimination than our countries do. As I told you, 90% of the Kurds are against the Kurdistan plan. I lived in Syria, I saw those people, I went to Ayn Al Arab and Qamishli and I asked them.
All of the ethnics in Syria doesn't have any problem living under Arab Syrian rule. It is those minorities that are funded by evil powers to spread chaos.

Kurds never existed in this land as a country. If you read history, Kurd is a persian word for "Brave", They were Persian Nomads who live in Iran and then, because they are nomads, they spread all around the area.

get your facts right.
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
Yes very sad he isn't a dangling corpse hanging on a Ankara streetlight.
And I know the coup didn't succeed, what I meant that it was a good show of how the Turks are losing control, bit by bit they slip more and more. 
I agree with the interventionist point, I want my nation out of foreign nations.
Not effective at all? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%2… 2015 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%2… 2016, somethings working for the Kurds. 
What do you expect? Air strikes can only get you so far. 

Historically yes, but times have changed, the US use to be inhabited by natives but we took it, you don't see us giving it all back to them. Is it good we did it? Debatable, we've tried to do our best to give back to them for what had happened in the past and now we are moving forward. Same with Syria, while it did own that land long ago the times have changed, the Kurds now mainly inhabit that area, north syria, north Iraq, South east Turkey and west Iran. 

Also black having an independent country in the US? Ah no, were fine being the United state of america, we already had a war were people tried to leave, for a stupid reason none the less. 

www.quora.com/Why-should-Kurdi… Syrians actually have the smallest percentage of Kurds of all the main countries consisting of Kurdistan, also do you have a source for that 90% statistic? 

That dosent defeat the fact that they currently occupy those areas and are the main ethnic group in it. Your claims of WE USE TO OWN IT dosent add up to anything, Russia use to own Alaska but you don't see Putin clamoring for it to return. 
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SouriFa5oor Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
Nonsense.
They have no rights. Inhabiting a place doesn't make it yours.
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 17, 2016
Still not gonna give me the source. Ah well. *Sips coffee.* 
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TallisKeeton Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2016
I also think that the Israelis have gone a bit to far in their taking of Palestinian Land.

Hi :)
I like this poster - I'm for it wholeheartedly. But I think its just one great utopian dream :) The religion's fanatism and the rasism fanatism is too great in both of their heads to give them chance to settle together around a round table one day.
Now for the sake of objectivism - for a change :) change "Israelis" to "Russia" and "Palestinian Land" to Crimean land". And look what you have told to the viewers in reality. I mean - you realy think that it is possible to go "a bit too far" in TAKING other's ppl land"? :) A bit too far in thieving? Really? :D I'm not for changing any borders by war or other military force. It is and should be illegal. Being done by anyone including USA, Russia, Poland, Israel, China, simply anyone. Even if from the military point of view it should have been done for a pre-emptive strike - which is a favorite pasttime of America I guess :D But as for Russia - it is an agression - and thats hilarious :)
Greetings from Poland :)
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 9, 2016
This could possibly be the most passive agressive comment I've read all day.
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TallisKeeton Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2016
Why "agressive"? Explain.
Greetings from Silesia :)
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PrinceOfArabia Featured By Owner Jun 21, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
NO WAY!! NEVER !
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2016
Why? Whats so bad about peace and cooperation. 
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edjack12 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2016
This guy blocked me.
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2016
Not surprised. Cant have pesky disagreements :P 
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edjack12 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2016
He blocked you too?
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2016
no.
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PrinceOfArabia Featured By Owner Edited Jun 22, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
I am not against peace or cooperation. I am against the peace between homicides criminals who took away something that doesn't belong to them (Israel), and the poor people that are being killed everyday (Palestinians). Why? because it is unfair. This is the Arabs land since the Canaans, who were Arabs. It is just like you saying a burglar got into your house and claimed it is my house and someone from outside supports him then he say let us all share the house. This is unfair and all who support "Israel" are joining the crime Israel is committing. Regardless, I am a man who enjoys peace and wish for it but in a fair way and without taking away people's rights and property. 

P.S. it is completely false and unacceptable to say that jihad is something evil and bad, and to say that Hamas are terrorists.
First of all jihad is an Arabic term for joining war. Second Hamas is defending the Palestinians. I don't see any terrorism in that. I agree with you in the fact that the Palestinian government is bad. But also we should agree that the Israeli government is worse. My point is simple. Stop provoking the Arabs, stop saying that Arabs, who are fighting in their lands like Iraqis against U.S. or Palestinians against Israel, are terrorists. Of course we all agree that ISIS and Al-Qaeda are terrorists but not because they are Muslims or Arabs. The KKK are terrorists too, because they are promoting violence and terrorizing people. Same thing goes to the Zionists and the Nazis. Let me tell you a fact, When the French occupied Syria, the Syrians were called terrorists just because they were defending their land and their people. We all should agree that the Arabs land are the Arabs land. The West and Russian-Chinese countries should all stay away from it in every area. You can't apply your ideology on us. You can't force us for democracy or socialism or whatever. Our land, our Ideology, and our own future and past. The solution is basic, stop provoking us.
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edjack12 Featured By Owner Jun 30, 2016
So your saying that you'd rather have several decades worth of conflict? That's the greatest thing I've ever heard.









(That's sarcasm by the way.)
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PrinceOfArabia Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
I'd rather the monkeys(Jews) Be burnt and leave our land, so yes.
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edjack12 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2016
That won't solve anything.
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PrinceOfArabia Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
There is nothing to be solved, they get out from the Arabs land and that's it.
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edjack12 Featured By Owner Jul 16, 2016
That's still not a good option. Removing Israel in it's entirety may be something happy for Arabs, think about the other fucking people in the middle east. It doesn't have to be all fucking Arabic or Islamic. Just go through a peace process where Israel and Palestine will stop fighting and have Palestine become a full sovereign member of the UN and don't go into war. Removing Israel is a highly impossible solution, so, that idea is just thrown straight out the fucking window.
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PrinceOfArabia Featured By Owner Jun 22, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
And that what all of the Westerns say when they know people got them in the spot where they can't answer.
Because the Western people are simple minded and stupid.
I thank you for announcing my victory in this conversation.
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2016
Ok cancerous memes aside your starting to piss me off a bit. 

Now first of Israel Historically had been there first, the kingdom of Israel had been a nation for over a hundred years and had existed before any idea of Palestine,Yes I know that they majorly differ from the Israel of today but still it came first. Also technically Palestine hasn't been considered a state till much recently, before then it had been apart of other nations from an ottoman territory, to the mandate of Palestine, and remember that the Palestinians refused the UN partition plan and started the war with Israel. This all could have been avoided if the palestinians accepted it. Is it shitty that the nation is being partitioned, yeah, but thats the way it was going to be. The jew's wanted a land of their own and after the holocaust it became more apparent than ever for the want of a independent nation. 

Also time for a video www.youtube.com/watch?v=E74IOa… i'm sorry but this is not fucking funny bud. This isn't a noble group of freedom fighters, these arent the vanguards of peace and order. Their barbaric Islamic terrorists masked as a "Legitimate" government. 

Both The governments perpetuate problems and only worsen it. Netanyahu has made it his job to try and fuck up any big of progress we can make in the middle east AKA the Iran deal. But this doesn't let the palestinian government of Hamas and other parties of the hook. Hamas gives around, oh I don't know, zero fucks for palestinian citizens. They basically use them as human shields for their weapons and then use palestinian deaths to further legitimize themselves as "Freedom Fighters." THing is that freedom fighters would senselessly beat their own people, they wouldn't throw them in jail for arbitrary things like having a child out of wedlock, they wouldn't condone the murder of innocent people (The Israelis) Nor would they ever condone suicide bombings. 

Also you said "Of course we all agree that ISIS and Al-Qaeda are terrorists but not because they are Muslims or Arabs." OH man, this shit. Ok While I will agree a part of the violence is due to interventionism, I find it completely intellectually dishonest to dismiss Islam from the terrorism equation. They are following what the Quran says, they aren't excluded as Muslims, it is a large part of modern day terrorism. Not to say it's only that religion but for the moment it is immensely that religion. 


Also in regards to your last comment, no thats not my normal response, I wasn't in the mood to respond at that time. But now I am. Also I seem to see that you are a generalizer as well. "The Wester people are simple minded and stupid"

Really? At least in our nations we don't make it legal to be able to jail homosexuals or have them put to death for being gay. At least here women don't have to be subjected to wearing a piece of clothing against her will. Women arent treated as cattle, you can freely speak against religion and not be thrown in jail or killed. You can freely believe what you want without fear of the government jailing you. I'm sorry buddy but in terms of civil liberties and the west is the best. 

In the US We don't let any religion rule over us, we have it written as law that state and couch is separate, it's sad to say thats a luxury, as many *Looks to the middle east* don't have that right. If I were to chose where to live, most middle eastern nations would be at the very bottom. While flawed majorly the US is heaven in regards to the fact I wont be executed for simple stating an idea, or disagreeing with an institution, wether it be government or church.


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ghostraptor1917 Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Don't bother arguing with a jihadist. They will say how your a imperialist tyrant and how west is evil and how Islam is the religion of pace
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PrinceOfArabia Featured By Owner Jun 23, 2016  Hobbyist Artist
Israel existed first?
I told you in the beginning that the Canaans were there first. The Canaans were Arabs. The Jews then conquered the Canaans land the same way they did today. And that thing happened before 4000 years. Now Imagine how many years the Arabs settled. Now that is one.
Two, there was no Holocaust. This is a shitty propaganda by the Jews and the West to play the victim card. I'm not saying the Nazis were good. Of course, the Nazis are stupid and racist pigs. But the Holocaust didn't exist. 
also time to show your ignorance and lack of information...
1. Hamas doesn't control Palestine, they are not the government of Palestine. Fateh is. Fateh is throwing anyone who just prays in jail.
2. They are not using citizens as human shield, in our countries. If your country is occupied the citizens join the war which we call "Nafeer", where everyone by their own choice join the war to defend and liberate their land.
3. The Palestinians and the Jews refused the UN plan.
4. This is the most ignorant point you are in, Islam doesn't teach terrorism. I read the Quran, I studied every single word. Islam teaches peace. One of the incidents that happened with Prophet Mohammed (peace be upon him) was that a guy, who was a jew, came to him and held him from his neck. The guy wanted to punch the Prophet and the Prophet companions stood up wanting to defend the Prophet. He refused and asked the guy politely what he wanted. The guy told him his request, and the prophet gave him what he wanted and told the companions not to hurt him. Another incident is when a very famous guy named "Abu Jahl", who wanted to kill the Prophet, was out there preaching against the prophet and asking people to kill him. Two of the Prophets' companions asked the prophet to kill him. He refused saying "We don't kill". Another thing, when the Prophet came to Medina (Yathrib) because the people there asked the Prophet to come. There was a minority of Jews and Christians. The Prophet established a Constitution that stated: "The jews, Christians, and the Idol worshipers have the right to exercise their religion and worship whatever they want, and nobody shall hurt them, and who do so he will be punished." In the Quran it says, "Don't fight or kill anyone who doesn't hurt you or do anything bad to you Unless they fight you or kill you or force you to get out of your houses and properties, God doesn't like the people who hurt others who didn't do anything to them." Also the Quran states, " You have a religion and we have a religion so everyone can exercise their religion." The Quran is in Arabic, the only way to fully understand the Quran is to learn Arabic. 
5. Aren't the KKK also following what the bible say?, That is what they claim. I don't believe that. Because I know the Bible teaches peace not hate.
6. I lived in both the Muslim and the Western nations for a long time. I heard stories and witnessed others. In the Muslim world, people don't get killed for refusing Islam or saying anything, we can say whatever we want. But most of our governments, who are secular and Western puppets, puts everyone who refuses their Ideologies in jail. The government put anyone who prays or exercises only Islam to jail. Other Arab and Muslim governments, it is completely different. To be honest,  you can say whatever you want and choose whatever political party you like. They are even way liberated than the U.S. and way developed and improved than the U.S.
You can visit Dubai, Kuwait,Turkey, or Qatar  to witness that yourself. Women are free to choose whatever they want to do. No one forces them to wear the Hijab. In fact, our women want to wear the Hijab, because they feel more safe and want to protect themselves and their bodies. Because they believe that this protects them from being provoked by men and that men uses them for pleasure and advertising their bodies. We believe that our women are jewels and we must protect it. And that is why you can't hear that their are rapes in our countries, and their are a lot of raping in the Western world. In Islam women are valued and are equal to men. 
7. You said Palestine was part of other nations like the Ottoman Empire or the Mandate of Palestine. The Ottoman Empire was a Caliphate. The Muslims defines themselves as one Nation. Also, the Palestinians are part of the Arab nation that is part of the Muslim nation. So, the Palestinians was part of their own nation. You can't count the Mandate of Palestine. This was an invasion. The British and the French occupied Syria and divided it into different countries. oh, and by the way, this shows how much the West is always looking to provoke us. And the Palestinians are not part of the British or the French nations.
8. Fact: During the mandate of Palestine, which happened in 1920, Before the Nazis, the British were funding Jewish Terrorist Gangs who were killing, raping, and murdering Palestinians. Those gangs were kidnapping children and women. In 1917, Balfour gave a promise to the Jewish people that he is going to give the jews their nation a country in the Arab World, specifically Palestine. This promise happened before the Nazis or the "Holocaust".
9. Fact: During the Roman Empire, the land of Palestine was named Syrian Palestine Province.
10. Fact: In Europe, Being gay is unacceptable. In Christianity being gay is unacceptable. In Judaism being gay is unacceptable. In Israel being gay is unacceptable. Why? Because all of them believe that this is against nature. Women and men are created for each other. How are we going to have generations if people decided to marry the same sex. I mean what is next? having the rights to have sex with an animal or a chair or a table? that is love and nature in your opinion?. In physics, there is a negative part and a positive part. The negative part can't touch the negative part but only the positive part. 
11. In Islam we don't kill anybody who is gay or whatever. We have a process that is called "preaching". What does that mean? it means that we try to convince him that what is he doing is wrong. We never kill anybody. We encourage him to be a better guy and stop doing wrong stuff. Islam doesn't use violence. If you saw someone or a group of people who does, they are ignorant and they are not representing Islam. In fact, they are created to ruin the image of Islam. People like ISIS, in Islam, they are not considered Muslims. Because, In Islam, they are doing stuff against Islam.

If I want to respond to everything you said, I won't finish. Because everything you said is completely false and is an evidence of your lack of information and ignorance.
It looks like all of your information you got it either from the hypocrite media or the Internet.
I advise you to read more about the Islam, the Islamic Civilizations, and History in general. And read the Quran. Go to different mosques and ask the Muslims about their religion. You can't judge someone by hearing about him but by dealing with him and talking with him.

Eventually, we all have different opinions. I gave you quick facts.

I hope you get to be guided to the right path. Good luck.
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Helixdude Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2016  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Now this is absolutely beautiful!! An art piece that doesn't vilify or glorify either of the nations but simply wants piece.
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Apr 29, 2016
Thank you. :)
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bolter21 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I am an Israeli and I hate the Palestinians so much that I want to give them a country and make peace. How's that?
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Mar 16, 2016
Something equivalent to the 1948 partition plan or a federal solution? Like Bosnia Herzegovina or belgium. 

Also 
Flag of the Holy Land by AmericanSFR  
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bolter21 Featured By Owner Edited Mar 17, 2016  Hobbyist Digital Artist
No Bosnia for me..

I only support the existance of my country and alongside a sovereign Palestinian state with 100% responsibility for their citizens.

I would prefer a situation where the Palestinian Authority governs most of the West Bank while not being a state, more of an autonomy and I would like that in this solution, after ensuring Israel's security, all the measurs taken will advocate the increase of life quality for the Palestinians to prevent radicals from taking over. In other words, I support replacing the corrupt Fatah-led PA with a more autonomous entity that will have more responsibity for it's citizens.

But the second one will proabably never happen, so I stay in favour for the first one, two states.
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Royszawa Featured By Owner Edited Jan 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
I like this, thou...
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2016
Whats wrong?
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Royszawa Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2016  Hobbyist General Artist
Nothing, I just say that I like your art..
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RedAmerican1945 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2016
Ah ok it was just worded weirdly. Thank you though. 
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Becky123190 Featured By Owner Sep 19, 2015
i love this
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